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I can kind of understand why that gentleman is considering moving to a new browser. I just updated to Firefox 4.0.1 this morning. After installing I noticed that all the check marks in Options had disappeared as well as the preference check marks for some add-ons. Running Firefox in it's "Safe Mode" with all add-ons disabled I was able to configure Options. I submitted a report at Mozilla's support forum and got a reply from a user there that it's most likely an add-on that is causing this. So some time very soon I'm going to systematically disable each add-on to determine which one is the offending culprit. More fun with Firefox! On a plus note, I found this version to have a much more responsive web page load time, quicker start up and less RAM usage than it's predecessor.

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I can kind of understand why that gentleman is considering moving to a new browser. I just updated to Firefox 4.0.1 this morning. After installing I noticed that all the check marks in Options had disappeared as well as the preference check marks for some add-ons. Running Firefox in it's "Safe Mode" with all add-ons disabled I was able to configure Options. I submitted a report at Mozilla's support forum and got a reply from a user there that it's most likely an add-on that is causing this. So some time very soon I'm going to systematically disable each add-on to determine which one is the offending culprit. More fun with Firefox! On a plus note, I found this version to have a much more responsive web page load time, quicker start up and less RAM usage than it's predecessor.

Hi Ritchie,

Thanks for your info! I haveFF3.6.17 & still waiting for important extensions to be developed! (I check every day, but still the extensions are missing, no progress!) Maybe I should upgrade anyhow to FF4.0.1, but prior to doing this I will based upon your lines above disable all extensions in FF3.6.17, update to FF4.0.1, and then try to enable the extensions one by one to find the culprit in this way. Is using "Safe Mode" necessary? An alternative way is to first make a list of all my existing extensions, uninstall FF3.6.17 completely, cleanly install FF4.0.1 from scratch, and finally add the extensions one by one. (The settings of the extensions, I have to do from scratch, but it will not be so time-consuming!) I am not sure what method I will use, maybe I will wait some days prior to decision & action! You say, that " I found this version to have a much more responsive web page load time, quicker start up and less RAM usage than it's predecessor." This is very important, because especially startup time is the main problem for me (not so much the load-time of webpages!)

Cheers,

sweidre

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Hi, here is an article by Wired Epicenter about Mozilla publishing the 50 slowest FF Add-Ons:

"Mozilla Publishes List of the 50 Slowest Firefox Add-Ons

By Mark Brown April 5, 2011 | 2:36 pm | Categories: Cool Apps, The Web"

http://www.wired.com...irefox-add-ons/

Cheers,

sweidre

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Hi, here is an article by Tech.Republic about Googles promise not to phoning home your data:

"Google promises Chrome is not phoning home with your Web data"

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/hiner/google-promises-chrome-is-not-phoning-home-with-your-web-data/3942

Cheers,

sweidre

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Sweidre, I tracked down the problem. I am using a custom theme called Classic Compact 4.0.8 with a customization add-on for the theme called Classic Compact Options 4.0.8. It was this add-on that was causing the anomalous behavior. Once disabled all the check-marks appeared where they're suppose to. However I have the same set up on Robert's XP Pro 32 bit machine and do not encounter this behavior. So the problem lies with Windows 7 and/or a 64bit operating system with this add-on. After I post this I am going to see if I can contact the developer and inform him of this bug.

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After some experimenting I narrowed the problem down even further. The add-on has a option where you can change the OS background color within the theme. I had made a change to that but after reverting back to the default setting everything is just fine now. Problem solved and I can still use the add-on! Cool!

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After some experimenting I narrowed the problem down even further. The add-on has a option where you can change the OS background color within the theme. I had made a change to that but after reverting back to the default setting everything is just fine now. Problem solved and I can still use the add-on! Cool!

I am using the default FF theme, I think. Good, that you have Roberts XP 32-bit computer to compare with. The quoted lines above indicate, that you have found a solution. Fine! Your info about FF4 is highly appreciated prior to my attempt to upgrade some day!

Cheers,

sweidre

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Hi, here is an article by CNET.com about FF5 Beta:

"Rapid-release idea spreads to Firefox 5 beta"

http://news.cnet.com...064976-264.html

Is it relly tactically correct by FF to follow in the footsteps of Google Chrome, with frequent releases and hiding menubar & toolbars? In my mind Chrome is not perfect at all, so I think that FF should have kept its own profile! Now Users will have a heck to test and compare all versions! (Opera users have not this kind of problem! Opera users stick to Opera, thats it!

Cheers,

sweidre

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Hi Ritchie,

During the night I have just upgraded FF3.0.17 to FF4.0.1 without any technical problems! First I missed Menu bar and Status bar, but I got them placed correctly. My tabs I also manage to place, where I want to have them. FF4 is really different from FF3, but with many postive features, I noticed! Startup time is really fast now! ( I have not yet tested loading time of websites ). I miss still some extensions, but maybe I can find replacememts for them?! So, in the long run, I think I will get familiar with this new version! Hmm..."In the long run", when FF5 is just waiting around the corner!

Cheers,

sweidre

PS. One day I must look into the latest version of Opera also! DS

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There are some differences between the versions. Speed, both start up and web page load time is greatly improved with this version. Also they have tried to improve the Page File (virtual memory) archiving that was a real problem with the previous versions which resulted in excessive RAM usage. That's the reason for the introduction of CleanMem to my system (still goin' to use it though). You know they are working on a beta 6 version already.

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You know they are working on a beta 6 version already.

FF6 Beta? That means a stressful time ahead regarding only FF. One way is to skip Beta testing & maybe skip Chrome (??). The real beauty with FF is its PlainOldFavorites in sync with IEs Favorites. The extensions of FF are better developed, than the corresponding extensions of Chrome except "Click&Clean". Opera testing? I doubt, for now, at least!

Cheers,

sweidre

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Hi, here are download sites & an article by CNET about the browser Opera:

"Opera - Download.com v.11.11" (including Video)

http://download.cnet...4-10005498.html

"Opera - Download.com" v.11.50 Beta

http://download.cnet...4-10068484.html

"New Opera beta tightens password security"

http://download.cnet...0067773-12.html

Cheers,

sweidre

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Hi, her is an article by ZDNET.com about Microsofts Free Malware Cleaner:

"Microsoft ships free malware cleaner that boots from CD or USB"

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/microsoft-ships-free-malware-cleaner-that-boots-from-cd-or-usb/8712?tag=nl.e019

Cheers,

sweidre

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Hows it all going.

Just an opinion that may or may not be relevant.

Over the last year or so I have been using windows Xp and opera as my main net tools so to speak.

Opera 11.1 (swordfish) is a fast, highly customisable browser and leaves IE and FF for dead (in my opinion)

However at this stage of the game I am and have for awhile been using the chromium browser and peppermint ice.

Peppermint ice being a cloud based linux distribution and chromium being the open source development version of google chrome.

 

With the right extensions in place with chrome it is by far the best experience I have ever had in say 15 years of web surfing.

 

I now have all my main data `cloud based' and secured with password protection etc.

Everything I do on the net is a click away on my browsers extensions or built in capabilities.

 

I had some hardware failure issues a few weeks back and put a spare hard-drive (40gig) in place of my main drive for a number of reasons.

 

This is what I did next to get everything (years of downloads and web-site developement, documents, data, utilities, etc.) back to where I left off.

 

Booted with `Peppermint Ice' CD.

Formatted, partitioned the drive.

Installed peppermint as operating system on the drive.

rebooted.

clicked `update manager' > this downloaded about 300 meg to bring peppermint right up to date with any changes, updates and security patches.

(note: no other software, drivers, tools, applications, 3rd party software required)

(instant access to all my peripherals inc, 3g mobile modem as standard, 1920by1080 32 bit display on my 24" monitor, etc)

Installed about 8 extensions from chrome extensions (inc, lastpass, xmarks, slick rss, etc.)

Copied about 30 gig of mp3's, mp4's photos, etc from my backup drive.

Installed about 5 pieces of other software that I use a lot from `software manager'

 

Finished (less than an hour.

 

Nothing missing, nothing lost, no need for any other software.

 

Back up, secured and safe as houses.

 

My point?

I love chromium and would not return to any other browser now. (I have opera as 2nd browser for testing)

As I intended and as I have been doing for months now `Bye Bye Microsoft and bye bye bloatware.

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Hi Duncan,

Thanks for your info!!!

So you use Linux cloud-based Peppermint Ice as OS and Chromium as a browser! Sounds really good, but l living in the mountain no mans land bordering Norway, I have 180 km to the closest computer company and consultant! OK, email communication works, but do you have any light-weight easy understood info materiel about Linux Peppermint Ice & Chromium? (My resistance to change is an obstacle, you understand!)

 

Please, can you reply to these questions:

1. Do you miss any features in Linux - Peppermint Ice ? E.g. certain programs existing only in Windows? What about surfing speed? Security in the long run?

2. Is it difficult to setup Peppermint Ice or Chromium to your liking?

3. Have you got hold of any manuals or tutorials about Peppermint Ice & Chromium?

4. Can a newbie handle Peppermint Ice and Chromium?

Cheers,

sweidre

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