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There are currently three known issues with Immuent 3.0 on Windows 8 Developer Preview.

 

Tetra Engine Does Not Run on Windows 8 32bit:

This behavior will cause a few issues when the Tetra engine is turned on:

 

-When installed in Trial or Plus mode, a reboot will be required when installation is complete.

-After rebooting you may receive notifications that a driver failed to load.

-Rootkit scans will complete instantly and report 0 files scanned.

 

As a workaround we recommend installing in Cloud mode, or turning off the Tetra Engine and Tetra Updates options if you have installed in Plus or Trial mode.

Please note that Tetra will run on the 64bit version of Windows8 Developer Preview without any issues.

 

Operating System Version:

An operating system version check will block the Immunet 3.0 installation displaying the following error:

 

"Immunet 3.0 can only be installed on computers with Windows XP (SP2 or greater), Windows Vista (SP1 or greater) or Windows 7."

 

Users can click the Ok button on the dialog and continue with the installation.

 

Program Compatibility Assistant:

Running the Immunet 3.0 UI will cause a Program Compatibility Assistant dialog to be displayed, users can click on "Run the program without getting help" to run the Immunet 3.0 UI as normal.

 

 

These issues will be resolved in the next release of Immunet 3.0.

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After installing Immunet 3.0 on a windows 8 machine, it does not co-exist with Windows defender. Windows Defender for win 8 is both anti virus and anti malware software.

 

Once installing Immunet 3.0, the OS disables windows defendor and informs you that no malware software is present. Would be nice to run Immunet with Windows Defender as with windows 7 when one can run security essentials with Immunet 3.0.

 

I tried having Immunet update to newest release, disabled it in the services panel, let windows defender run, then restarted the Immunet service. But after starting the service the windows defendor was turned off by the OS.

 

Is there any work around for this?

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Hello Eric, with Windows 8 if you install another AV product this does indeed automatically disable Defender. The OS has been designed to do this. I may be wrong but I don't think there is a workaround for this either. Microsoft has made some improvements to Defender for Windows 8 but it is still just a very basic anti-malware application that usually does not do that well during malware testing compared to other AV packages on the market. This is helpful to people that choose not to use a third party AV with Win 8 as that, at the very least, provides basic protection. My opinion is: you would be much better off using Immunet than Defender anyway!

 

Regards, Ritchie...

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I liked the structure of Immunet supporting a friendly co-existence with a primary anti-virus anti-malware agent. Since windows defender for window 8 supports antimalware with antivirus, with Immunet, only there is only anti-virus.

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Hi buddiemac, that is correct, version 3.1.8 of Immunet now supports Windows 8 & 8.1 and you can use Defender with Immunet. Simply add an exclusion for the Program Files folder of Immunet to Defender and do the same for Defender with Immunet's Exclusion list. You should be good to go then!

 

Best wishes, Ritchie...

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Ritchie, I installed 3.1.8 and it disables Windows Defender in win 8.1. I did add the exclusion in Immunet. So what do I do now? Uninstall immunet and re-enable defender and add the exclusion and reinstall immunet? Currently I can not enable Win Defender with Imunnet installed. Thanks,

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Ritchie, I tried setting exclusion, unistalled immunet, but saved settings but selecting the unistall option to allow reinstall. Rebooted and W Defender was active again. Set exclusions in W Defender for Imunet directories. Re-installed Immunet but W defender was turned off again. Action center states another anti-virus software is installed. What else can I do? I thought these programs could co-exist?

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Oh geez! I had forgotten this and "I do apologize!" I do hate to make mistakes! Older versions of Defender are designed by default to automatically disable itself when another AV is installed so this is actually normal behavior for Defender. I did some research on the web and found out that although improvements have been made with Defender for Win 8, offering the same protection as Microsoft Security Essentials, it will act in the same manner. That is, turning itself off if another AV is installed. Microsoft designed it this way so users that don't have or want a primary AV installed will at least get "very basic" protection. Also you can't install MSE either as it's not compatible with Defender for Win 8.

 

I do have a question. You are using the Immunet Free version right? If you have the Plus (paid) version that can and should be used as a stand-alone AV security solution on it's own anyway.

 

If you're using the Free version you could team that up with any of the other major players free or paid AV's as a great anti-malware combo! I used Panda Cloud (both Pro and Free versions) and Immunet Free for years myself with great success at protecting my PC. Of course you don't have to choose Panda. Do a little research yourself and choose an AV that best suits your needs and run Immunet along side of it or consider purchasing a Plus license key for Immunet. Heck, even using just Immunet Free with the ClamAV module enabled will give the average home user adequate protection if visiting questionable web sites & other risky browsing habits are minimized or nonexistant.

 

This is my current security setup.

 

Active software: Comodo Firewall with Defense+ & AutoSandbox enabled (no AV enabled), Immunet Plus (TETRA enabled, ClamAV disabled), testing Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit beta which provides zero-day vulnerability browser/application protection.

 

Other anti-malware tools: Malwarebytes Free as an extra on-demand malware scanner, Malwarebytes FileAssassin (this can delete locked files), Kaspersky TDSSKiller as an additional on-demand root-kit scanning utility. I also have the newest version of Emsisoft Emergency Kit on a flash drive just in case and as a portable set of removal tools for friends/relatives infected PC's too.

 

Browser security add-ons (Firefox): BetterPrivacy (LSO [supercookie] management), BrowserProtect (browser hijack protection), NoScript (JaveScript, Java and other plug-ins management), Search Engine Security (Blackhat spam Search Engine Optimization protection).

 

As great as I think Immunet Plus is I still personally don't like to completely rely on just one anti-malware product for my PC's total security!

 

Best wishes, Ritchie...

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Ritchie,

 

Thanks for your detailed reply. I also like Immunet as a light additional malware protection which compliments a primary protection solution. I am familiar with all your recomendations. The only differences in my approach is that if a computer is infected and the realtime detection did not take care of cleaning the infections, I then boot from a CD or USB driver running linux and scan the drive. This way you eliminate any conflcits with with virus and your machine.

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Interesting concept buddiemac. Emsisoft's Emergency Kit is used in the same manner. Utilizing a flash drive for the detection/ removal tools. Also worth mentioning is the fact that you can use Immunet in Safe Mode (press F8 while your OS is booting) if malware is blocking Immunet from operating normally when the OS is booted up. You would want to use Safe Mode with Networking if the need ever arises. Malwarebytes & it's Chameleon app (this app will help launch MB if it's being blocked by malware) works great in Safe Mode too if an infection is being particularly stubborn to remove.

 

Cheers, Ritchie...

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