whitedragon551 Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 I sent an email out yesterday to Immunet for a few ideas I had to make the product better. Ive recently been using AVG AV 2011 and F Secure AV 2011. Both incorporated a fingerprinting technology to speed up scans. I think this should be included in IPP if it wants to compete with other vendors. Secondly. Scan speed. The initial scan speed is horrible. Its extremely slow and takes awhile to complete even on a fairly trimmed OS install. Third. When IPP finds something users should have the option to quarantine, not to quarantine, or exclude the item from future scans rather than just auto quarantine. Fourth. An auto update feature should be implemented. What good is an AV solution if the update servers dont push out the latest updates? It leaves you vulnerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallas7 Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Immunet is extremely lightweight. That also goes for the Plus version with its local Tetra component, probably the lightest BitDefender implementation available to the public at any price. Adding the fingerprint technology you reference would result in the typical whining and moaning about "bloat" and "heavy" scattered about the forums, especially at Wilduhs Sekürity. Immunet did it right. Like you, I run MBAM Pro. Even its Quick Scan is nothing to write home to mom about. When I run the Full scan, I go have lunch or spin a DVD in the home theater. So if you find Immunet's scan speed unacceptable, you must also accuse MBAM of the same. Besides, why would you care about scanning with the apps you're running in real time? If I suspected or knew if anything got past my layers, I'd fire up Hitman Pro and/or Emsisoft's Emergency Kit (the latter also takes its sweet time for a full scan). While I recognize the need for scans with AM apps installed on infected machines, at that point who cares how long it takes as long as the job gets done? If you don't have the time, just keep using the infected machine. On a known-clean system I care more about the efficacy of real-time protection where on demand scanning is becoming less and less relevant. Both "On Detection" settings should be set to "Ask Me" to effect the quarantine behavior you speak of - a popup will nudge for an action. "Auto Update" is by default in Immunet Free and Pro and determined by Immunet. You'll get an alert when Immunet pushes it and then you can run the updater. Though I do think an Auto Auto Update (download, update, reboot) should be an option. The BitDefender stuff downloads hourly beginning when the agent service is started or comes out of sleep/standby/hibernation. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon551 Posted October 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 I dont think you understand the fingerprinting technology. It only speeds things up even more. Basically if a file has been scanned and it hasnt been modified since last scan its ignored. Not only does it reduce system overhead it also reduces subsequent scan times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallas7 Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 I assure you I fully understand the tech. And it is you that doesn't understand if you think "it only speeds things up" without the cost of overhead and resources by the code (passive OR active) that makes it all possible - otherwise known as "heavy" and "bloat" by the forum posers. The yootoob clowns would run a scan, open Task Manger and point out all those nasty processes. "They should do something about that!!" I can't speak for F Secure or others that use it but I know fingerprinting in both AVG* and GData can be disabled for use on older systems. (*Fulltime running processes avgchsvx and avgcsrvx; uses about 90MB RAM when scanning.) Immunet did it right. But if they bow to pressure for fingerprinting, I hope they offer the option to disable it. And that's my final say. Hasta la vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon551 Posted October 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 I guess since your so amazing and designing AV software you should totally have final say in IPP's development. Even if there is minimal overhead by implementing a fingerprinting technology if you dont have a system capable of handling that whole whopping 90Mbs then perhaps you shouldnt be paying for AV software and rather upgrading your machine to cope with todays current technology. F Secure and AVG are both extremely light and implement it. I still dont see the issue here. Bloat isnt about having fingerprinting technologies. Its about AV software including garbage that isnt needed like PC analyzes, registry cleaners, backup utilities, etc. Not about market standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanibal Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 dallas7 "Immunet is extremely lightweight. That also goes for the Plus version with its local Tetra component, probably the lightest BitDefender implementation available to the public at any price. Adding the fingerprint technology you reference would result in the typical whining and moaning about "bloat" and "heavy" scattered about the forums, especially at Wilduhs Sekürity. Immunet did it right." +1 Please keep it lightweight. whitedragon551 "Third. When IPP finds something users should have the option to quarantine, not to quarantine, or exclude the item from future scans rather than just auto quarantine." +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcramedic Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Why are you using two AV's?!?! That has been proven to be a bad idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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