WARNING for older PC's

[briab]

I'm not saying it is a bad APP. I read about it and it sounded like its worth a try.

 I have a older box: W7, P4, 3G mem. I keep it running well with minimum resources eating at it. Bare bones.

 This program devoured it. Immediately it slowed down, the whole OS not just the internet. Explorer would just stop. I tried to clear a path for it by shutting down other programs like Tracks Eraser, CCleaner, Malware bytes etc...  But that did not appease the monster. Only uninstall.

Maybe a newer PC would have the requirements ( I didn't look) but a older PC I believe will have the same results.

Curious to see later. 

[ritchie58]

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience with Immunet.

Did you create an exclusion rule for Malwarebytes entire Program Files folder with Immunet & create a exclusion rule for Immunet with MB? That can go a long way in avoiding possible conflicts when running Immunet as a companion AV to another product.

Like you mentioned, it could also be that your older computer just doesn't have the system resources needed. Especially if it's older SDRAM or DDR memory modules 3 gigs of RAM really isn't that much memory these days as software increasingly becomes more complex requiring more RAM & CPU cycles.

I seen this happen to a friend of mine a number of years back. He was using an older rig with Win XP installed. After upgrading to a newer version of Immunet at that time he discovered that his old computer would just shut down after boot-up because "all available SDRAM memory was being used up!" I had to help him uninstall Immunet by using Safe Mode. Immunet no longer supports Windows XP since version 5 was first rolled out.

I'm sure you're also aware that Microsoft no longer supports Windows 7 with security updates, bug fixes and system upgrades. That means as time goes by your computer will become more vulnerable to malware, viruses and hackers. Maybe it is time to consider getting a newer rig briab.

Regards, Ritchie...

[briab]

Ritchie ,

 I really think you are correct. Its just to old to run some newer programs.  I have a HD that I can play (try different programs without worry) with,  so Malwarebytes (never been that thrilled with) and other programs got uninstalled or shut off.  Never started with the PC.  Using resource monitor the memory looked okay and so did the CPU. I didn't check event viewer, that may have held some info. Something kept shutting down Explorer.   I have had other programs do the same thing so that I am never sure just why they don't work with this system. Sometimes, I swear these PC's are mystical Quick get the tin foil hats...

 I'm not all that worried about M/S stopping  support. I just read that some company (I checked the site out so it exists) is going to keep up with the updates. I don't remember how it works. $ ?  And somehow M/S will still be making updates but not everyone is privy to them.?

Okay, I had to go look:   Micropatching Keeps Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 Secure After Their End-Of-Support                                                        https://blog.0patch.com/2019/09/keeping-windows-7-and-windows-server.html

Not for me but you may have some people that will benefit

thanks, Brian 

 

 

 

[ritchie58]

Hi Brian,

You are right about that. Some corporate users can still use Win 7 by buying an Extended Security Update licensing agreement from Microsoft.

Here is a partial copy of a older post I made about the end of support for Win 7.

For IT professionals: Microsoft will offer paid Windows 7 Extended Security Updates (ESU) through January 2023.

The Windows 7 ESU will be sold on a per-device basis and the price will increase each year. Windows 7 ESUs will be available to all Windows 7 Professional and Windows 7 Enterprise customers in Volume Licensing, with a discount to customers with Windows software assurance, Windows 10 Enterprise or Windows 10 Education subscriptions.

I don't know if I could completely trust any third-party vendors issuing security patches for Win 7. It would be so easy for some unscrupulous software vendor to include spyware or even malware in their code. A hacker that broke into the site could even make changes to the code without the vendor's knowledge! It happened to Piriform's CCleaner official download site a few years ago.

On a different note, with your older PC and limited memory you should look into if you have any start-up programs at boot-up that's not mission critical so to speak. You should only allow start-up programs that absolutely need this priority such as your security software. Something you can look into. It might save you some CPU/RAM usage if you do discover any programs that do not need to start at boot-up but do so.

Something else I agree with. It seems that a computer can have a mind of it's own sometimes, lol!

Cheers, Ritchie...

[briab]

Ritchie.
Good advice about 3rd party software.  I keep this running what I call bare bones. Believe me  if you look at what starts up in msconfig startup, it is 0.  Same with services when you hide all the Microsoft services ( in msconfig) .   A good site that you may already know is Black Vipers: http://www.blackviper.com/    it keeps things pretty trim.   I think I learned how to save on resources when I played a lot of online games way before the power PC's like Alienware came along. My 1st fast PC was a 233MMX. There was also that speedy 56k modem :)

FYI,  when I clk'd on GO TO THIS POST from Gmail I got a warning about the certificate here. I should have captured the screen to show you. I know its nothing but thought I'd give you a heads up. I don't know where to find that pg now to show you (do you?) I'll clear history and cookies and try again maybe it will pop back up. If so I'll get it to you.

 

Thanks again

 

 

[briab]

Ritchie

 I went and loaded Firefox on another drive so the warning would come up. I'll just uninstall it. I couldn't find it once I went past it on other drive with Firefox.

If I'm getting it so are others.

My clock is correct.

 

 

[ritchie58]

I am aware that the authentic HTTPS Security Certificate for this site has "expired" and I am trying to let the admins/devs know of the situation. I noticed that myself yesterday. So far no response back. Bummer.

Another FF user, that's cool! My browser of choice for years. Yeah, I'm getting the same warning message too.

[briab]

I am such a dope sometimes. I saw FF user and thought, hmm ? FF user? Something with the web? Never herd of it...?

I use Psiphon sometimes, maybe that is it?

FireFox. DA!

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.” – Albert Einstein

stay safe and thanks for the insight as you can see, I'm just fine.

 

[ritchie58]

Yeah, FF is an abbreviation commonly used for Firefox. I'm a little surprised you never heard of or seen this abbreviation before if you're a FF user.

I still haven't heard back about the security certificate expiration issue yet.

Check your Private Message feature, I sent you one.