WacoJohn Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 I have Immunet protect 3.0.0.18 FREE version. I just saw a BRIEF notice a new version is available .. it disappeared fast. Thinking I should 'get it', I went to the Immunet website to find a button to download Immunet Protect Free .. but not a word on what version it is. I came to the forum to discover the 'new version' is a beta (apparently). I also 'gather' betas are downloaded from a particular link .. from what I read in the forum. I don't install beta versions of anything on my computer. The POINT is .. the download option needs to indicate what version a user is downloading .. version number at least .. and certainly NOT a beta. I downloaded the installer and saved it to my desktop. File properties say it is version 2.0.17 so that is no help at all in knowing what the heck one is downloading. If a newer 'final release' version is available, then previous version notices should pop up .. but not for betas. I am GUESSING what one downloads from the website is a final release .. and probably the same thing I have installed - 3.0.0.18 but I have no idea what it is. EDIT: Update Well, I just found this 'announcement' in another forum: "Hi everyone, Immunet 3.0.1.6056 has been officially released as of 1:00 PM MST, April 13/2011!" I guess it is now 'clarified' .. but until I found that .. 'what was what' was pretty confusing. All could be cleared up with ver info placed on the d/l page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob.T Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Hi John, downloads available through www.immunet.com are always official release versions, never betas. Adding a version number to the download page is a great idea though - I'll get that added ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallas7 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Next time after you see the balloon tip notification, just click on "Update Now" under the Product column in Immunet's main screen. That'll download everything and then you just click on the Install button. If you did know about this method, is there any reason you went the way you did? Just curious... The crew at Immunet won't be pushing out any betas that way; they've always been manual downloads and installs. Pretty much the way most software developers do it. And if your installed app prompts for an upgrade, with versions looking like 3.0.1.6056, does it really matter what the number is? As coincidence would have it, Zemana upgraded today and there are two numbers like that involved, product and heuristics kernel. The kernel went from 1.7.2.811 to 1.9.2.501. I mean, what could my response be? OMG! 1.9.2.501?? I'm not downloading THAT!! But, yes - the Web site should show the latest version number. Logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WacoJohn Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 ahhh yes .. MOST of all this 'confusion' is my fault. No .. I did not notice the UPDATE NOW option in the main screen (DUH .. embarrassed). The only way to upgrade (to my thinking) was to go to the website where I expected to see ver info. When I didn't, I got more confused because of a beta announcement I found within this forum. I did not THINK anyone would do an upgrade with a beta ver .. but with all the confusion .. I wasn't sure .. (especially when I read about the new beta in the forum .. which I THINK was announced today (too much info in too many places)). Yep .. in the midst of all my confusion, boom, got a Zemana update too .. and IT did not give ANY warning .. just boom, updated itself. It boils down to I got myself confused .. (doesn't happen too often, thank God), ... but ver info is lacking in critical places .. I think. Thank you for all the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweidre Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 I have Immunet protect 3.0.0.18 FREE version. I just saw a BRIEF notice a new version is available .. it disappeared fast. Thinking I should 'get it', I went to the Immunet website to find a button to download Immunet Protect Free .. but not a word on what version it is. I came to the forum to discover the 'new version' is a beta (apparently). I also 'gather' betas are downloaded from a particular link .. from what I read in the forum. I don't install beta versions of anything on my computer. The POINT is .. the download option needs to indicate what version a user is downloading .. version number at least .. and certainly NOT a beta. I downloaded the installer and saved it to my desktop. File properties say it is version 2.0.17 so that is no help at all in knowing what the heck one is downloading. If a newer 'final release' version is available, then previous version notices should pop up .. but not for betas. I am GUESSING what one downloads from the website is a final release .. and probably the same thing I have installed - 3.0.0.18 but I have no idea what it is. EDIT: Update Well, I just found this 'announcement' in another forum: "Hi everyone, Immunet 3.0.1.6056 has been officially released as of 1:00 PM MST, April 13/2011!" I guess it is now 'clarified' .. but until I found that .. 'what was what' was pretty confusing. All could be cleared up with ver info placed on the d/l page. Hi WacoJohn, 1. Betas I know, that many people avoid Betas (sometimes with good reason). Normally Betas are issued to a small group for volontarily testing. Many software producers are frequently (often weekly) issuing new versions without any Beta- label at all. Microsoft is issuing updates (patches) monthly without any prior Beta- testing. Their patches are often done in a hurry to urgently patch serious security holes! Bottom line: Betas should be avoided, if they are from suspicious sources! 2. Label of version number Good point, that also RodT agreed to. (We must know what we are installing!) 3. Version 2.0.17 It sounds, as if you have selected a non-English version from the curtain menu 4. Finally Nobody should be forced to upgrade, if he/she is satisfied with his/her current version, unless it is so old and badly developed, that it can harm the user and others! Cheers, sweidre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweidre Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Next time after you see the balloon tip notification, just click on "Update Now" under the Product column in Immunet's main screen. That'll download everything and then you just click on the Install button. If you did know about this method, is there any reason you went the way you did? Just curious... The crew at Immunet won't be pushing out any betas that way; they've always been manual downloads and installs. Pretty much the way most software developers do it. And if your installed app prompts for an upgrade, with versions looking like 3.0.1.6056, does it really matter what the number is? As coincidence would have it, Zemana upgraded today and there are two numbers like that involved, product and heuristics kernel. The kernel went from 1.7.2.811 to 1.9.2.501. I mean, what could my response be? OMG! 1.9.2.501?? I'm not downloading THAT!! But, yes - the Web site should show the latest version number. Logical. Hi Dallas & others, Generally I will just say, that the issuing of versions should: 1.) Be announced in Immunet software, so that users, who are not members in the forum, will get info of a new release in Community -> Notices. (Info in the forum will be given only to a minor fraction of the c:a 21,240,000 users out there. 2.) Link from both the Immunet software and forum to the Immunet website, where a comprehensive description of the new release easily can be found. 3.) The website of Immunet should list not only the latest version, but also previous versions for downloading. Of course, all should be labeled with version numbers and with/without Clam/Tetra! The versions should be clearly be also be labeled with Beta and/or Final! 4.) Routines for updates should be described in Manual, Tutorial or at least in a well developed FAQ category available only in the forum, but also at the Immunet website. 5.) Avoid confusing version numbering! Previously there was a version 3.0.2 for translators issued, but now 3.0.1 is used again. Which one is the latest? I thought, that 3.0.1 is released prior to the 3.0.2, but it is now the other way around! Cheers, sweidre PS. The words Beta and Final should also be shown in the forum! DS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallas7 Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Yep .. in the midst of all my confusion, boom, got a Zemana update too .. and IT did not give ANY warning .. just boom, updated itself. If you go to the Update tab in Zemana Settings you'll see a bunch of options for the update. Yours is probably set to Level 1. Fortunately Zemana updates rarely require a reboot and in the three years I've been using it it's never fubar'd my two XP systems. Just for grins, I'm attaching a screen shot for anyone who's interested to see what a world-class update options configuration can be presented to a developers customer. This is just one of the things that makes Zemana the superior unparalleled product that it is. The world can learn from them and Immunet when it comes to giving optional control to a savvy user tho I do fully recognize the need for the non-expert fully-auto mode. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweidre Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 If you go to the Update tab in Zemana Settings you'll see a bunch of options for the update. Yours is probably set to Level 1. Fortunately Zemana updates rarely require a reboot and in the three years I've been using it it's never fubar'd my two XP systems. Just for grins, I'm attaching a screen shot for anyone who's interested to see what a world-class update options configuration can be presented to a developers customer. This is just one of the things that makes Zemana the superior unparalleled product that it is. The world can learn from them and Immunet when it comes to giving optional control to a savvy user tho I do fully recognize the need for the non-expert fully-auto mode. Cheers. Hi dallas7, Thanks for the Zemana thumbnail! I think, that all softwares including Immunet Protect should really follow Zemana's way of giving the user personal update options! I had Zemana Antilogger during my XP period (in fact, I was a Swedish translator also), but it seems, that Zemana has really developed its product since then! Cheers, sweidre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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